1 00:00:04,210 --> 00:00:35,310 [Music] 2 00:00:39,069 --> 00:00:36,389 well thank you I'm not going to try and 3 00:00:42,350 --> 00:00:39,079 compete with Dr uh put off in regards to 4 00:00:44,910 --> 00:00:42,360 the knowledge of the US followup from 5 00:00:48,029 --> 00:00:44,920 let's just say from when he was born to 6 00:00:51,229 --> 00:00:48,039 now uh but I will say that it's a pretty 7 00:00:53,349 --> 00:00:51,239 tremendous honor for me to be here today 8 00:00:55,069 --> 00:00:53,359 and uh and just try to bring you up a 9 00:00:56,990 --> 00:00:55,079 little bit on some of the points that I 10 00:01:00,549 --> 00:00:57,000 think are important as to where Canada's 11 00:01:02,229 --> 00:01:00,559 at in reg regards to uaps and uh I have 12 00:01:04,910 --> 00:01:02,239 four points that I want to talk about 13 00:01:06,230 --> 00:01:04,920 today a little bit in that area but 14 00:01:09,830 --> 00:01:06,240 first of all I want to say that I'm 15 00:01:11,230 --> 00:01:09,840 really honored to be here today to uh um 16 00:01:12,670 --> 00:01:11,240 have something in common with the first 17 00:01:15,789 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker being the last speaker of the 18 00:01:17,830 --> 00:01:15,799 afternoon and that was with Dr lob and 19 00:01:19,350 --> 00:01:17,840 and uh you know there was lots of 20 00:01:20,910 --> 00:01:19,360 interesting things he said today but one 21 00:01:23,109 --> 00:01:20,920 that caught my attention is that we both 22 00:01:25,870 --> 00:01:23,119 came from 23 00:01:27,789 --> 00:01:25,880 farms and uh and that's where the 24 00:01:31,510 --> 00:01:27,799 similarities 25 00:01:34,350 --> 00:01:31,520 ended he is a world famous Professor of 26 00:01:35,830 --> 00:01:34,360 astronomy and I became a politician so 27 00:01:38,630 --> 00:01:35,840 that tells you who was most successful 28 00:01:41,950 --> 00:01:38,640 and where they ended up 29 00:01:44,789 --> 00:01:41,960 um but I also you know listened very 30 00:01:47,230 --> 00:01:44,799 closely to Dr Val's comments today as 31 00:01:49,709 --> 00:01:47,240 well and and uh you know it was about 32 00:01:50,990 --> 00:01:49,719 how do you get here and uh he was 33 00:01:55,270 --> 00:01:51,000 talking 34 00:01:57,029 --> 00:01:55,280 about the uh energy U basically adviser 35 00:01:59,990 --> 00:01:57,039 to the president in the United States 36 00:02:01,029 --> 00:02:00,000 and he told the story and I was walking 37 00:02:04,069 --> 00:02:01,039 home last night with a couple of 38 00:02:05,469 --> 00:02:04,079 Manitoba or Canadian colleagues and I 39 00:02:08,109 --> 00:02:05,479 want them to just wave their arms over 40 00:02:11,150 --> 00:02:08,119 here Drew ostach is and from my office 41 00:02:12,949 --> 00:02:11,160 in Ottawa and uh Dan McClure here as 42 00:02:14,390 --> 00:02:12,959 well if you guys could just give a 43 00:02:16,670 --> 00:02:14,400 little wave 44 00:02:18,150 --> 00:02:16,680 there they're they're quite a pair 45 00:02:20,350 --> 00:02:18,160 they're very involved in this whole 46 00:02:22,270 --> 00:02:20,360 process as well but you know they picked 47 00:02:24,630 --> 00:02:22,280 a green frog off the street last night 48 00:02:26,670 --> 00:02:24,640 with a little green light on his head a 49 00:02:29,869 --> 00:02:26,680 little crown and and they handed it to 50 00:02:31,710 --> 00:02:29,879 me and and I uh was paying very close 51 00:02:34,430 --> 00:02:31,720 attention to Dr Val's comments when he 52 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:34,440 said that you know the guy at his age he 53 00:02:38,350 --> 00:02:36,800 handed him the Frog back well I knew I 54 00:02:40,509 --> 00:02:38,360 wanted to be here today CU Gary and 55 00:02:43,270 --> 00:02:40,519 Peter had asked me to be here very very 56 00:02:46,509 --> 00:02:43,280 uh uh you know a while ago to to 57 00:02:48,030 --> 00:02:46,519 participate in this yeah I I thought as 58 00:02:49,350 --> 00:02:48,040 well like that person and I said you 59 00:02:50,869 --> 00:02:49,360 know I've got two children and seven 60 00:02:53,229 --> 00:02:50,879 grandchildren already so I handed them 61 00:02:55,990 --> 00:02:53,239 the Frog 62 00:02:58,110 --> 00:02:56,000 back uh and that's not like me I'm 63 00:03:00,229 --> 00:02:58,120 usually the kind of a guy that tries to 64 00:03:01,430 --> 00:03:00,239 bring change into place I'm not the guy 65 00:03:04,070 --> 00:03:01,440 that tries to put things back in 66 00:03:06,110 --> 00:03:04,080 somebody's pocket uh being a politician 67 00:03:09,910 --> 00:03:06,120 I'm not there to pick your pocket either 68 00:03:11,149 --> 00:03:09,920 usually I try not to but to make change 69 00:03:13,670 --> 00:03:11,159 and that's what I've been involved in 70 00:03:15,550 --> 00:03:13,680 pretty well all of my life is to uh is 71 00:03:17,789 --> 00:03:15,560 to look at the opportunities for change 72 00:03:19,830 --> 00:03:17,799 that take place so I want to commend 73 00:03:21,110 --> 00:03:19,840 this all Foundation here for the work 74 00:03:22,589 --> 00:03:21,120 that they're doing the papers that 75 00:03:24,550 --> 00:03:22,599 they'll the reports that they will 76 00:03:26,830 --> 00:03:24,560 publish and bring out for the attention 77 00:03:29,429 --> 00:03:26,840 to this subject and partly that's why 78 00:03:31,390 --> 00:03:29,439 I'm here today is to let you know how 79 00:03:35,190 --> 00:03:31,400 we're trying to progress in Canada to 80 00:03:36,830 --> 00:03:35,200 make it more public there as well um 81 00:03:39,110 --> 00:03:36,840 there's four areas I want to talk about 82 00:03:41,509 --> 00:03:39,120 and then and what one of them is what 83 00:03:44,589 --> 00:03:41,519 are politicians are thinking about this 84 00:03:46,910 --> 00:03:44,599 issue uh what can be done in the 85 00:03:48,830 --> 00:03:46,920 Canadian uh Parliament and are 86 00:03:51,589 --> 00:03:48,840 politicians even paying attention to 87 00:03:53,869 --> 00:03:51,599 uaps and what should politicians be 88 00:03:56,190 --> 00:03:53,879 thinking about if they're not 89 00:03:59,429 --> 00:03:56,200 already so I think those are some of the 90 00:04:01,670 --> 00:03:59,439 the keys that I wanted to address and so 91 00:04:03,190 --> 00:04:01,680 these conversations and sharing of ideas 92 00:04:05,190 --> 00:04:03,200 like we're having at this conference 93 00:04:07,190 --> 00:04:05,200 will help governments wrap their minds 94 00:04:08,830 --> 00:04:07,200 around this and I look forward to the as 95 00:04:11,470 --> 00:04:08,840 I said the policy papers that Saul will 96 00:04:13,750 --> 00:04:11,480 put out for this uh it's encouraging to 97 00:04:16,509 --> 00:04:13,760 see people coming together in forums 98 00:04:19,949 --> 00:04:16,519 like this to even talk about these 99 00:04:21,469 --> 00:04:19,959 things to uh uh to pull their talent and 100 00:04:23,510 --> 00:04:21,479 minds and the more people we can get 101 00:04:25,790 --> 00:04:23,520 working together on these topics the 102 00:04:28,670 --> 00:04:25,800 better and being a politician I can 103 00:04:32,270 --> 00:04:28,680 honestly say that politicians are 104 00:04:34,670 --> 00:04:32,280 usually maybe I might set myself aside 105 00:04:36,070 --> 00:04:34,680 from this one a little bit inherently 106 00:04:38,550 --> 00:04:36,080 adverse to 107 00:04:41,230 --> 00:04:38,560 risk uh so when I see a politician in 108 00:04:43,350 --> 00:04:41,240 Congress or somebody in the world who is 109 00:04:45,590 --> 00:04:43,360 uh at least willing to ask questions 110 00:04:47,390 --> 00:04:45,600 then I think they should be applauded 111 00:04:50,110 --> 00:04:47,400 and I commend all of you as leaders for 112 00:04:52,150 --> 00:04:50,120 being here today at this session and I 113 00:04:55,070 --> 00:04:52,160 would encourage you to go home and find 114 00:04:56,990 --> 00:04:55,080 people who even if they're remotely 115 00:04:58,510 --> 00:04:57,000 interested in this topic and they've got 116 00:05:00,749 --> 00:04:58,520 someone in their area or region that's 117 00:05:02,790 --> 00:05:00,759 speaking out to take a couple of minutes 118 00:05:04,550 --> 00:05:02,800 and write that person a note and say 119 00:05:06,950 --> 00:05:04,560 thank you for speaking out and thank you 120 00:05:08,790 --> 00:05:06,960 for what you're doing to move this whole 121 00:05:11,749 --> 00:05:08,800 uh topic 122 00:05:14,950 --> 00:05:11,759 forward it is a nonpartisan issue as I 123 00:05:16,950 --> 00:05:14,960 think uh Dr pudova just pointed out uh 124 00:05:18,390 --> 00:05:16,960 and I think it should remain that way 125 00:05:20,909 --> 00:05:18,400 I've tried to do that in the Canadian 126 00:05:23,510 --> 00:05:20,919 Parliament as well but everyone does 127 00:05:25,710 --> 00:05:23,520 deserve honest answers and now we got to 128 00:05:27,029 --> 00:05:25,720 figure out the best way that we can find 129 00:05:30,230 --> 00:05:27,039 out what they 130 00:05:31,550 --> 00:05:30,240 are um so for those who have been 131 00:05:34,230 --> 00:05:31,560 following this issue for years this 132 00:05:36,629 --> 00:05:34,240 might sound a little boring but for 133 00:05:39,469 --> 00:05:36,639 those who work in government it's really 134 00:05:43,469 --> 00:05:39,479 key it's a key topic we ask must ask the 135 00:05:45,909 --> 00:05:43,479 simple question of who should take the 136 00:05:48,150 --> 00:05:45,919 lead how do we get this information out 137 00:05:49,909 --> 00:05:48,160 there we got to remember that mandates 138 00:05:51,870 --> 00:05:49,919 and roles given to those who work in 139 00:05:53,710 --> 00:05:51,880 National Defense and intelligence 140 00:05:55,950 --> 00:05:53,720 agencies are not the best suited 141 00:05:57,590 --> 00:05:55,960 sometimes for what most people want 142 00:06:00,070 --> 00:05:57,600 which is 143 00:06:02,629 --> 00:06:00,080 transparency that's not to SL anybody 144 00:06:04,950 --> 00:06:02,639 and who's doing a masterful job of of 145 00:06:06,150 --> 00:06:04,960 keeping our nation safe I've always said 146 00:06:08,070 --> 00:06:06,160 the first job of parament 147 00:06:11,430 --> 00:06:08,080 parliamentarians and politicians is to 148 00:06:12,950 --> 00:06:11,440 keep a country safe um but it's that we 149 00:06:15,629 --> 00:06:12,960 should be asking them to do something 150 00:06:18,510 --> 00:06:15,639 outside of their core Mission and I've 151 00:06:20,909 --> 00:06:18,520 made no secret of that I want uh the 152 00:06:24,309 --> 00:06:20,919 efforts in Canada to be led by our best 153 00:06:26,070 --> 00:06:24,319 and brightest scientific Minds which is 154 00:06:28,909 --> 00:06:26,080 why I asked the government of 155 00:06:29,909 --> 00:06:28,919 Canada of of Canada's Chief science 156 00:06:32,870 --> 00:06:29,919 advisor 157 00:06:35,309 --> 00:06:32,880 to take on this initiative in Canada and 158 00:06:37,230 --> 00:06:35,319 I was encouraged to see them accept my 159 00:06:39,790 --> 00:06:37,240 request and they're currently working on 160 00:06:41,309 --> 00:06:39,800 the sky Canada project which will 161 00:06:43,270 --> 00:06:41,319 provide recommendations for various 162 00:06:46,390 --> 00:06:43,280 departments and agencies to adopt 163 00:06:50,710 --> 00:06:48,670 year this report will be public and it's 164 00:06:52,510 --> 00:06:50,720 my hope that that we'll get this issue 165 00:06:55,070 --> 00:06:52,520 in front of the standing committee of 166 00:06:57,670 --> 00:06:55,080 science and research and I'll outline 167 00:06:59,550 --> 00:06:57,680 that a little bit more uh shortly but 168 00:07:02,350 --> 00:06:59,560 even in Canada we're swimming Upstream 169 00:07:05,749 --> 00:07:02,360 from what I've been told even our own 170 00:07:08,909 --> 00:07:05,759 departments have not been as Cooperative 171 00:07:12,230 --> 00:07:08,919 with the sky Canada project team which 172 00:07:14,150 --> 00:07:12,240 disappoints me and now that does not 173 00:07:15,589 --> 00:07:14,160 necessarily mean that they're hiding any 174 00:07:17,309 --> 00:07:15,599 information either but it is an 175 00:07:19,070 --> 00:07:17,319 indication that they are not willing to 176 00:07:21,589 --> 00:07:19,080 engage as much as I'd like to see them 177 00:07:23,430 --> 00:07:21,599 do that breaking down Decades of stigma 178 00:07:24,790 --> 00:07:23,440 and ridicule will take time as we've 179 00:07:27,670 --> 00:07:24,800 talked to previous speakers have talked 180 00:07:30,749 --> 00:07:27,680 about today a bit too but we cannot let 181 00:07:33,270 --> 00:07:30,759 bureaucracies bury this in red 182 00:07:35,230 --> 00:07:33,280 tape so what can be done in the Canadian 183 00:07:36,950 --> 00:07:35,240 Parliament well unlike Congress our 184 00:07:39,150 --> 00:07:36,960 Westminster parliamentary system is not 185 00:07:41,629 --> 00:07:39,160 well placed for members of parliament to 186 00:07:43,510 --> 00:07:41,639 compel the government to do anything 187 00:07:46,830 --> 00:07:43,520 outside of cabinet ministers and a very 188 00:07:49,309 --> 00:07:46,840 small handful of influential MPS we 189 00:07:52,670 --> 00:07:49,319 don't get access to classified 190 00:07:54,309 --> 00:07:52,680 information regardless of the issue any 191 00:07:57,510 --> 00:07:54,319 of the information we get is either 192 00:07:59,270 --> 00:07:57,520 through good oldfashioned leg work and 193 00:08:00,869 --> 00:07:59,280 trying to verify leads talking to people 194 00:08:03,070 --> 00:08:00,879 people who no longer work in government 195 00:08:05,629 --> 00:08:03,080 or when someone leaks 196 00:08:06,869 --> 00:08:05,639 something well we've seen this happen 197 00:08:08,830 --> 00:08:06,879 just recently in Canada when a 198 00:08:10,589 --> 00:08:08,840 whistleblower came forward to reveal 199 00:08:11,749 --> 00:08:10,599 beijing's interference in our own 200 00:08:14,070 --> 00:08:11,759 election 201 00:08:16,070 --> 00:08:14,080 processes but in the United States your 202 00:08:20,350 --> 00:08:16,080 executive is not part of Congress but 203 00:08:23,070 --> 00:08:20,360 Congress does holds hold the pur strings 204 00:08:25,270 --> 00:08:23,080 in Canada our executive by convention is 205 00:08:28,149 --> 00:08:25,280 made up of members of parliament from 206 00:08:31,189 --> 00:08:28,159 the governing party only and they and 207 00:08:32,589 --> 00:08:31,199 they alone get to write bills and spend 208 00:08:35,790 --> 00:08:32,599 that 209 00:08:37,430 --> 00:08:35,800 money I'm raising this because under the 210 00:08:39,430 --> 00:08:37,440 until the current government decides to 211 00:08:41,350 --> 00:08:39,440 act we and the opposition in Canada are 212 00:08:43,029 --> 00:08:41,360 left asking questions and hoping they 213 00:08:44,829 --> 00:08:43,039 will take our 214 00:08:47,230 --> 00:08:44,839 recommendations it doesn't mean we're 215 00:08:51,070 --> 00:08:47,240 sitting back and doing it nothing our 216 00:08:54,150 --> 00:08:51,080 caucus our caucus the one I'm in has 217 00:08:55,750 --> 00:08:54,160 hello there has been clear that we 218 00:08:57,829 --> 00:08:55,760 believe the government should be working 219 00:09:00,670 --> 00:08:57,839 with the American government and our 220 00:09:02,790 --> 00:09:00,680 allies to determine the origin and 221 00:09:05,470 --> 00:09:02,800 intent of 222 00:09:07,990 --> 00:09:05,480 UAP and that's what I've solely said 223 00:09:09,829 --> 00:09:08,000 from day one in my own work that may 224 00:09:11,430 --> 00:09:09,839 sound a bit trivial but we were the 225 00:09:14,230 --> 00:09:11,440 first political party in Canadian 226 00:09:15,670 --> 00:09:14,240 history to do that much even but because 227 00:09:17,710 --> 00:09:15,680 we are currently in opposition what's 228 00:09:20,630 --> 00:09:17,720 the best way to accomplish 229 00:09:23,150 --> 00:09:20,640 that well the first is to get the chief 230 00:09:25,949 --> 00:09:23,160 science advisor report tabled in 231 00:09:28,430 --> 00:09:25,959 Parliament and then a parliamentary 232 00:09:30,069 --> 00:09:28,440 committee to conduct a thorough and 233 00:09:31,550 --> 00:09:30,079 proper study 234 00:09:33,350 --> 00:09:31,560 now I'm not talking about a one-off 235 00:09:35,910 --> 00:09:33,360 meeting I'm talking about bringing 236 00:09:38,269 --> 00:09:35,920 researchers government officials uh 237 00:09:40,069 --> 00:09:38,279 scientists particularly and doing our 238 00:09:42,230 --> 00:09:40,079 best to compel those who know a lot more 239 00:09:44,670 --> 00:09:42,240 about information of the information 240 00:09:49,470 --> 00:09:44,680 than we do to reveal what they legally 241 00:09:53,269 --> 00:09:51,990 committee I also believe Canada's 242 00:09:56,190 --> 00:09:53,279 auditor 243 00:09:58,230 --> 00:09:56,200 general can play a massive role in doing 244 00:09:59,550 --> 00:09:58,240 a deep dive into the government's 245 00:10:01,790 --> 00:09:59,560 records and determine if proper 246 00:10:03,829 --> 00:10:01,800 procedures were used and money is spent 247 00:10:05,389 --> 00:10:03,839 effectively in Canada the auditor 248 00:10:08,790 --> 00:10:05,399 general is held in high 249 00:10:11,990 --> 00:10:08,800 esteem and they would be the best place 250 00:10:13,750 --> 00:10:12,000 to do that sort of work and make no 251 00:10:15,389 --> 00:10:13,760 mistake what is happening in Congress is 252 00:10:17,870 --> 00:10:15,399 being watched by interested members of 253 00:10:21,230 --> 00:10:17,880 parliament and our Canadian Chief 254 00:10:22,790 --> 00:10:21,240 science advisor's office any momentum or 255 00:10:26,310 --> 00:10:22,800 breakthroughs in getting information 256 00:10:28,430 --> 00:10:26,320 varied and revealed will help not only 257 00:10:30,870 --> 00:10:28,440 our Canadian efforts but it'll provide 258 00:10:33,230 --> 00:10:30,880 the necessary political cover so to 259 00:10:36,389 --> 00:10:33,240 speak for other politicians to Kickstart 260 00:10:38,949 --> 00:10:36,399 their own conversations in their own 261 00:10:40,910 --> 00:10:38,959 countries the onus is on politicians to 262 00:10:43,590 --> 00:10:40,920 have a realistic plan and start laying 263 00:10:45,750 --> 00:10:43,600 the groundwork to implement 264 00:10:47,670 --> 00:10:45,760 it so as to whether they're paying 265 00:10:49,230 --> 00:10:47,680 attention to uaps or not today people 266 00:10:51,750 --> 00:10:49,240 are not banging down our doors as I 267 00:10:54,949 --> 00:10:51,760 heard earlier here from uh from Stephen 268 00:10:57,030 --> 00:10:54,959 I believe that uh to demand UAP 269 00:10:59,069 --> 00:10:57,040 transparency and there hasn't been a 270 00:11:01,030 --> 00:10:59,079 compelling enough narrative to get most 271 00:11:02,389 --> 00:11:01,040 politicians to act and demand answers 272 00:11:05,230 --> 00:11:02,399 from their 273 00:11:07,629 --> 00:11:05,240 governments outside of the United States 274 00:11:10,430 --> 00:11:07,639 even with David gr's testimony and the 275 00:11:13,269 --> 00:11:10,440 previous statements by arrow and UAP 276 00:11:15,509 --> 00:11:13,279 task force there still isn't any 277 00:11:17,430 --> 00:11:15,519 concrete anything concrete for most 278 00:11:20,150 --> 00:11:17,440 politicians to grab on 279 00:11:22,990 --> 00:11:20,160 to and outside of Congress I haven't 280 00:11:25,750 --> 00:11:23,000 seen a coherent ask of their 281 00:11:27,230 --> 00:11:25,760 governments well it's good to ask the 282 00:11:29,870 --> 00:11:27,240 honest and 283 00:11:31,790 --> 00:11:29,880 transparency uh for transpar and honesty 284 00:11:34,629 --> 00:11:31,800 without a logical and reasonable process 285 00:11:36,590 --> 00:11:34,639 to get there it will fall on deaf ears 286 00:11:38,790 --> 00:11:36,600 if we don't have 287 00:11:40,110 --> 00:11:38,800 that let's face it we're dealing with 288 00:11:43,590 --> 00:11:40,120 the 289 00:11:45,670 --> 00:11:43,600 conversation and Landscape will look 290 00:11:47,750 --> 00:11:45,680 like if there is a formal recognition 291 00:11:50,230 --> 00:11:47,760 from a credible government source that 292 00:11:52,829 --> 00:11:50,240 they are in possession of unknown 293 00:11:55,870 --> 00:11:52,839 material or 294 00:11:57,710 --> 00:11:55,880 technology if that moment comes it is 295 00:12:00,509 --> 00:11:57,720 imperative that we start thinking about 296 00:12:02,790 --> 00:12:00,519 what sort of policy response resps that 297 00:12:04,710 --> 00:12:02,800 we from government uh that we want from 298 00:12:07,550 --> 00:12:04,720 our governments having those 299 00:12:10,269 --> 00:12:07,560 conversations now will help decrease the 300 00:12:11,190 --> 00:12:10,279 confusion and tension uh in the future 301 00:12:13,629 --> 00:12:11,200 and later 302 00:12:16,590 --> 00:12:13,639 on so what should politicians be 303 00:12:18,110 --> 00:12:16,600 thinking about well in closing I'd say 304 00:12:20,030 --> 00:12:18,120 that as of right now there's three or 305 00:12:21,670 --> 00:12:20,040 four things that I want to mention the 306 00:12:23,870 --> 00:12:21,680 number one issue is we need to be 307 00:12:27,189 --> 00:12:23,880 thinking about what is what Pro is what 308 00:12:29,550 --> 00:12:27,199 is the process that would be best the 309 00:12:31,829 --> 00:12:29,560 best way to declassify information and 310 00:12:34,030 --> 00:12:31,839 reveal it to the public and we've had 311 00:12:36,590 --> 00:12:34,040 some discussion about that today and H 312 00:12:38,110 --> 00:12:36,600 pointed that out very clearly we know 313 00:12:40,069 --> 00:12:38,120 the White House has laid out their plan 314 00:12:41,990 --> 00:12:40,079 with the Schumer Amendment which is to 315 00:12:44,310 --> 00:12:42,000 assemble a panel of individuals who will 316 00:12:46,790 --> 00:12:44,320 then determine what information should 317 00:12:48,230 --> 00:12:46,800 be held back and I believe it was done 318 00:12:50,790 --> 00:12:48,240 to take the pressure off the president 319 00:12:54,310 --> 00:12:50,800 and have an arms length 320 00:12:56,389 --> 00:12:54,320 process if the legislation passes and 321 00:13:00,189 --> 00:12:56,399 when we find out who the president 322 00:13:02,230 --> 00:13:00,199 nominates to the panel it'll be a good 323 00:13:04,350 --> 00:13:02,240 indicator whether the Biden 324 00:13:06,790 --> 00:13:04,360 Administration wants to go down in 325 00:13:09,110 --> 00:13:06,800 history as those who brought this 326 00:13:12,990 --> 00:13:09,120 information to 327 00:13:14,829 --> 00:13:13,000 light and any a little bit lighter here 328 00:13:16,430 --> 00:13:14,839 anyone who thinks they're putting an 329 00:13:18,949 --> 00:13:16,440 economist and a socialist on a panel to 330 00:13:23,710 --> 00:13:18,959 reveal praic information is kidding 331 00:13:28,829 --> 00:13:26,470 skills secondly I'd say another question 332 00:13:30,949 --> 00:13:28,839 we must be asking ourselves is how do we 333 00:13:33,430 --> 00:13:30,959 collaborate with our allies and how do 334 00:13:35,509 --> 00:13:33,440 we ensure our adversaries don't get 335 00:13:36,949 --> 00:13:35,519 access to sensitive information a bit of 336 00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:36,959 what we've talked about today here as 337 00:13:42,269 --> 00:13:40,079 well this will be a huge challenge if we 338 00:13:44,509 --> 00:13:42,279 as we do not exactly know what 339 00:13:47,069 --> 00:13:44,519 information is currently being kept 340 00:13:49,230 --> 00:13:47,079 secret I do not think anyone is 341 00:13:51,509 --> 00:13:49,240 expecting any government to reveal 342 00:13:54,710 --> 00:13:51,519 sources and methods let alone anything 343 00:13:57,150 --> 00:13:54,720 that could potentially help our 344 00:13:58,749 --> 00:13:57,160 adversaries but we also do not exactly 345 00:14:00,629 --> 00:13:58,759 know how information is currently being 346 00:14:01,949 --> 00:14:00,639 being shared among our allies and who is 347 00:14:04,870 --> 00:14:01,959 brought up to 348 00:14:06,749 --> 00:14:04,880 speed there will be need to be an 349 00:14:09,310 --> 00:14:06,759 extensive 350 00:14:10,790 --> 00:14:09,320 conversation about how information 351 00:14:15,230 --> 00:14:10,800 should be 352 00:14:18,470 --> 00:14:15,240 shared and who has access to 353 00:14:20,749 --> 00:14:18,480 what and most of all and what's the best 354 00:14:23,509 --> 00:14:20,759 way to involve civilian scientists 355 00:14:24,350 --> 00:14:23,519 academics and researchers well this is 356 00:14:27,150 --> 00:14:24,360 the 357 00:14:29,350 --> 00:14:27,160 key as a policy maker we must figure out 358 00:14:31,310 --> 00:14:29,360 a way to get those from outside of 359 00:14:34,430 --> 00:14:31,320 military and intelligence agencies 360 00:14:37,870 --> 00:14:34,440 involved we must tap their 361 00:14:40,310 --> 00:14:37,880 expertise many of you in this room and 362 00:14:43,509 --> 00:14:40,320 lastly the last question I want to raise 363 00:14:46,509 --> 00:14:43,519 is which is the most sensitive how do 364 00:14:49,790 --> 00:14:46,519 governments admit to their which is most 365 00:14:51,389 --> 00:14:49,800 which is most uh sensitive and that is 366 00:14:54,269 --> 00:14:51,399 how do governments admit to their 367 00:14:56,590 --> 00:14:54,279 citizens that they haven't been told the 368 00:14:59,350 --> 00:14:56,600 truth public trust in our institutions 369 00:15:01,870 --> 00:14:59,360 is already abysmal in times and this 370 00:15:04,590 --> 00:15:01,880 might be the moment to turn that 371 00:15:05,749 --> 00:15:04,600 around so I'll finish by saying it's 372 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:05,759 never too